tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3800694504837785724.post7250745818041051557..comments2024-02-12T08:19:47.349-07:00Comments on Rich's Rants: Questions, questions, questionsRich Passanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06802826156712863793noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3800694504837785724.post-22911381770826439872011-10-19T16:31:16.762-07:002011-10-19T16:31:16.762-07:00Yes, we keep pointing at the 10-22 because it'...Yes, we keep pointing at the 10-22 because it's a prima facie fact. It stands on its own demerit. You can what if all you want, but the bottom line still read 10 and 22 after two seasons. That cannot be argued.<br /><br />The fact is Mangini did more harm than good with the Browns and should have been jettisoned when Holmgren came on board. The fact he wasn't and the fact he posted a second 5-11 in a row was proof Holmgren did, indeed, make a mistake by retaining him. Bad move. It stunted the growth of the team Holmgren envisions.<br /><br />Now I'm not saying the team he and Heckert are crafting is better than the one Mangini tore apart and re-imaged. That remains to be seen. As a matter of fact, I see very little, if any, improvement., But retaining Mangini for a third season would have been a disaster.<br /><br />One more time and then we're done. Mangini is a very good defensive coordinator who was out of his element as a head coach. He tried to be Bill Belichick (his idol) and failed. Badly. That's because there's only one Belichick.richpassannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3800694504837785724.post-62409178215690329642011-10-19T13:16:32.281-07:002011-10-19T13:16:32.281-07:00that's all you media ppl do is point to 10-22....that's all you media ppl do is point to 10-22....is two years enough to evaluate? grossi thinks so...i don't....mangini had garbage for qb's...who brought them in? 4 turnovers away from 9-7 with crap talent...mangini's team would never allow a punter to throw a 35 yard td pass against his team...like you i'm sick of losing....but the browns keep losing b/c they keep changing every full moon...<br />mikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3800694504837785724.post-74187900101795901162011-10-17T16:10:42.712-07:002011-10-17T16:10:42.712-07:00All I know, Mike, is that Mangini was 10-22 in his...All I know, Mike, is that Mangini was 10-22 in his two seasons with guys he hand selected. And that spells spectacular failure to me. Enough already about this failed head coach. What-iffing someone into a winning record is a gigantic reach.<br /><br />As for Holmgren, we might have some common ground. He was a much better coach than GM in Seattle. The club he took to the Super Bowl was inherited. Not impressed thus far with what he's done in Cleveland except when he fired your guy.<br /><br />And I'm not exactly thrilled with Heckert, either. He had a chance to shore up this club's biggest weaknesses on offense -- the line and receivers in that order -- and whiffed on the line. The Browns have maybe the worst OL in the division.<br /><br />Until this team gets faster and quicker and drafts or trades for better athletes, it ain't gonna get any better. And Holmgren will join the likes of Phil Savage, Butch Davis, Dwight Clark and Mangini.richpassannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3800694504837785724.post-36638136502200631342011-10-17T15:42:35.727-07:002011-10-17T15:42:35.727-07:00Holmgren was a failure as a GM...he has no busines...Holmgren was a failure as a GM...he has no business running a football team....Mangini was 4 turnovers away from being a 9-7 football team....& none of those turnovers were his fault....care to relive them?<br />mikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3800694504837785724.post-43131707853341368492011-10-17T08:30:43.254-07:002011-10-17T08:30:43.254-07:00Hi Mike,
And all Mangini did was put up consecuti...Hi Mike,<br /><br />And all Mangini did was put up consecutive 5-11 seasons. He's a very good defensive coordinator, but lacked the chops as a head coach. You can have him. Cleveland is better off without him and his martinet ways. <br /><br />I didn't like the selection of Pat Shurmur as head coach. I think Mike Holmgren fixed one mistake when he fired a man one year too late and created another with his hiring of Shurmur. <br /><br />You can ride Mangini's coattails all you want, but he'll never land another head coaching job in the NFL again. If Holmgren had retained him after consecutive 5-11s, the Browns would be no better off today and on their way to another 5-11.<br /><br />So I'll offer you a deal. You take your Mangini love somewhere else and I'll stop ragging on his two very long, very sad seasons with the Browns.And let's both hope that Holmgren can right this ship because it's not looking very good right now.<br /><br />richrichpassannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3800694504837785724.post-58277407270589730502011-10-17T05:05:48.303-07:002011-10-17T05:05:48.303-07:00mangini's looking pretty good right now eh ric...mangini's looking pretty good right now eh rich? could have been the third year in the same system...perhaps tweaked the offense or opened the playbook a bit more...maybe now you'll understand mangini's apprehension toward mccory as a qb....you guys in the media that shot your mouth off about mangini need to shut up...mangini's special teams were always amoung the best...he ran the ball with conviction & played physical defense....all he need was time...but nooooo, not in cleveland...disgraceful to put this shit out there to some of the best fans in pro sports...<br />MikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com